Safety and Kids Revisited – Briefly

I just received an answer with respect to the recent children woodworking and safety issues blog I made mention of. The response speaks for itself and though the issues in the blog remain valued concerns, the team taking care of the kids did have the safety issues in mind but missed it a bit on the image they used, which we all do from time time to time.

Dear Paul,

Our sincere thanks for drawing attention to this important issue.

The photo was a staged shot taken during an event at the property, which was organised via a third party company. The company carried out risk assessments and put safety procedures in place, however you’re right to point out that in the picture the appropriate safety precautions are not shown and we apologise for this. The picture was chosen for by the assistant editor for the magazine article because we wanted an image that showed a range of people interacting with our venue, and we accept that we should have ensured it demonstrated correct safety procedures before we included it in the article.

The team here is now aware of the safety issues within this photograph, and the magazine editor will be more vigilant in future when publishing photos of this nature.

Best wishes,

The Team

7 Comments

  1. gc on 15 December 2015 at 6:11 pm

    And this, my friends, is one of the biggest benefits of a large readership. Responses!



    • Paul Sellers on 15 December 2015 at 6:34 pm

      I thought that too. Very nice response and the issues all taken care of as best we know how.



      • Christopher mitchell on 15 December 2015 at 6:51 pm

        Hello Paul, I have a question about tenon saws, where can I post this question so it doesn’t interfere with the subject at hand?
        Thanks
        Chris



        • Mike Ballinger on 15 December 2015 at 8:21 pm

          Hi Chris – if you’re looking for a response from the Paul Sellers team you could use the contact form on this site. Another option is to sign up to a free membership to woodworking masterclasses (there’s a link at the top of this website) and within that site you could post your question with any relevant photos under the forum / tools section. The latter is a good option as you’ll get responses from the community and others who have similar issues/queries can read and learn from the responses.



          • Christopher Mitchell on 16 December 2015 at 10:00 pm

            Thanks Mike, Ive never had much luch using that site for questions. Iv’e been a paying member for two years now. Paul doesn’t know this but He and He alone is teaching me this trade. The problem with someone else answering for him usually ends up skewed just a tad and If its from a third or fourth party then its most likely skewed even more so.

            Im not saying that these other people don’t know what there talking about cause they do, But you know haw that works. And with this question its not a problem question its more of an History question about why all the saws, Disston Backsaws I buy, are crosscuts.

            Every saw Ive ever purchased 10″ and up are always Crosscuts. In one of Paul’s videos he talks about when he was an apprentice They used to say hey would you hand me that tenon saw please and its was always filed rip, so they used a rip tenon saw for pretty much everything as for as joinery is concerned.

            I tried having a couple of my 10″ and one 12″ Disston Backsaws filed rip and they didn’t cut well at all. We even changed the rake angle from an agressive to a more passive rake and it still didn’t cut well. So Im wondering why that could be.

            Ive checked the plate thickness to see if that is any different but its not. Of course the 8″ #4’s are thinner but they are filed rip naturally.

            Ive also studied the Hang Angle of the handles and Ive noticed that the English Dovetail saws the Handle sits higher on the plate. I like that. In fact the Lie Nielsen Dovetail saw is almost identical to the R. Groves Dovetails saws I own.
            On the other Hand the Bad axe dovetail saws I own the hang angle is lower more like the Disston saws.
            I was reading from a old Disston catalog yesterday on how to sharpen their saws and I had no idea that there was more to filing a saw than just cutting running a file across the teefe’s .lol
            So that sparked a fire up inside my noggin.and made me start to think a lot harder about what Im doing here.
            No, its not rocket science . But it is science and well planed out to the tee.whats that word Paul uses all the time complementum , where two things compliment each other . Is that it, Ive always wondered what he is saying. I know what he means but I just cant make out what he is saying.
            Anyway , thats what I understood Disston’s article to mean by the hang angle and the pitch of the teeth. It was pretty neat.
            Thats what I wanted to ask Paul.
            Cheers
            Chris



  2. Derek Long on 15 December 2015 at 7:56 pm

    I’m glad to hear this was a “staged photo” chosen for marketing purposes and that they had someone on hand to advise on safety issues.



  3. M Ryan on 19 December 2015 at 9:39 pm

    Thanks for this set of blog posts on kids in the shop. I’m starting to get back into working wood and now have a 3 year old and 5 year old that want to be next to me at the bench. These posts have inspired me to make a stool for each child to bring them up to the right bench height and look for projects appropriate for them to bang on and help with.